Andrew Tate on marriage in the West

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    The P.S. is the part worth sitting with: men let this happen too. Andrew Tate's argument runs the other way for most of the clip. Women are the ones who broke it, in his telling. The social contract around marriage, the old arrangement where everything was ordered as described, fell apart the moment women decided they were done listening to men. Foundations gone, just like that. And once that happened, he says, what sane man signs up for marriage in the West? Respect for the sanctity of it is gone on both sides, which is why there's no rational case left for a man to make. Do it anyway and you're an idiot, a henpecked husband, or a guy running purely on emotion. He's blunt about how he sees it now: a man marrying in the West reads as henpecked to him. The Arab world gets a pass in his framing because traditions there are still preserved to a greater extent. The men catching his worst scorn are the ones marrying someone they met in a Miami nightclub, not a high school sweetheart. A stripper from a club, he says, and then asks what the point even is. His blame lands on women for bringing things to this state. The old contract worked, he says, until women no longer wanted to obey men. Sexual freedom was the desire. Sleeping with anyone, spending time with anyone. Fathers stopped being listened to, husbands too. Living however they pleased was the goal. That's the average woman in his telling: doesn't want to obey a man, wants to travel the world with a backpack, fly to Dubai, ride yachts, do whatever she wants. Then at 35 she expects a worthy man to show up and build a family. Men hear that and think: party, sleep around, live promiscuously, and then some man pays for it? No way. He's not against marriage as an institution, he says. He's against the women men pick today and the options the modern world hands them. Give him a 23-year-old virgin, deeply religious, never been with a man, ready to listen to him in everything and trusting him as mentor and head of household, and yes, he'd marry her. Meet a girl in Miami, date, decide to marry, and he's out. How do you make a wife of someone who went out with everyone right and left? He doesn't want to be that man. Most men want success, want to hit their goals. But the world he describes is matriarchal, everything male demonized, any traditionally masculine trait enough to get you called every name going. So who dedicates himself to the work, grinds, overcomes, gets rich, builds status, breaks out of the Matrix, and then marries a woman who lived however she pleased the whole time? Women are to blame, he concludes. The P.S. still says men allowed it.